Has there been any developments on this issue? Has anyone found any 64-bit ODBC Access drivers that work?
I am currently running 32-bit MM to update/refresh database, then switching to 64-bit MM.
However, the latest release is the final 32-bit supported version of MM.
I've been reading 64 bit Access 2016 tables straight into Micromine (import) but haven't tried using Access as an ODBC data source.
I'm with Frank. I retain an old 32 bit MM 2014 to import using 32 bit driver and then switch to work in 64 bit MM. I guess not useful if you're wanting to maintain a live ODBC link though.
ODBC or MSAccess link.....both fail miserably. I (my IT guy) got it working using a MariaDB driver and some other black magic, it wasn't as easy as just installing the driver as the 'Help' suggests. But since the last update its dropped out. I actually had some work to do so ended up linking my Access tables - excel workbook -ODBC - MM so at least I can refresh when new data comes in...
I have two methods I use to get data from Access into Micromine, both use other Microsoft tools as staging posts.
Using the External Data option in Access you can export a table to Excel which is then easy to import into Micromine. The other option is to use the External Data | More | ODBC Database option and drop the data into a table in a SQL DB then just link to that DB in Micromine. Both methods allow you to save the steps so that you do not have to specify all the steps each time. Of course if you want to use Access as your DB interface you can always store the data in SQL link it to Access and then also link Micromine to SQL server (or of course use Micromine's Geobank and say good bye to Access). SQL Express which will do everything most users are likely to want if they are not running a large corporate system is free.
Used to be simple to maintain a link from Micromine to ACCESS, now it doesn't work without a whole lot of hair pulling and maybe never. Might as well get rid of File|LInk|Microsoft ACCESS as far as I'm concerned. Should be called Microsoft Abcess anyway--garbage software.
It is possible to provide access support in 64-bit Micromine provided you install the right drivers and architecture. This one-page document will help you to choose the right combination.
There is a way, as Frank and Keith have noted - building on their notes, here are all the steps that I use. NOTE: although this works for me and many others that I have setup it up for but use caution to the point of being prepared to uninstall/reinstall MSOffice or Micromine, or even a machine rebuild. That said I and others have been using this method with no issues from MM 2016 through to current MM 2018.
This method assumes you have MSAccess 32 bit (MSOffice Professional or Office 365) as the source database, either as an ACCDB or MDB file. And you are running Micormine 64 bit on Windows10 64 bit.
The method will result in a link between MM (2016 or 2018) and a 32 bit MSAccess database (MDB or ACCDB) :
Microsoft have actually (intentionally) made it quite hard to use Access as a database from a 3rd party application. They appear to not be installing the drivers by default (at least for Office 365), and make it hard to install both 32bit and 64bit drivers side by side. It seems that their ultimate intent is to force people toward a proper database; SQL Express, SQL Server etc
I am an Office 365 user and Access is one of my main applications. I have noticed that, while the Office 365 versions of Excel and Word are steadily getting new features and an updated look with new icons etc., Access hasn't received significant updates in a long time. That would be congruent with Scott's observation that MS is trying to push people away from Access.
If they're really trying to deprecate Access that's too bad. I completely agree that one should use a proper SQL database, if a database is what one needs. I don't use Access for storing or archiving data myself, but I find Access to be a great data exploration tool. I'm not proficient with SQL, but with Access I can do a quick query on-the-fly, just to see "what if". Once upon a time, I would often make a quick link to Micromine to see what the data in my on-the-fly query look like in Visex, but it has gotten harder and harder to keep that working in recent years. A few months ago, after spending an inordinate amount of time in Microsoft's labyrinth online help and forums, I had everything working, but then Microsoft did an update and blew my setup away. Somehow they wiped the necessary drivers off my system. I have't had the patience to go and hunt down the drivers needed for links since, so I've been going Access-CSV-Micromine, but that is quite tedious.
I have spent a lot of time looking at things like SQLite and other light-weight dbs, trying out the available graphical user interfaces to see if there's something out there that can replace the ease of Access for exploring data, but I have yet to find anything that works as well for me. In part that's due to familiarity, after a couple of decades of working with Access, but maybe before too long Microsoft will force me to move on.
Peter, If you are deliberate in your choice of the 64bit driver to install to ensure it is not the same as the office version you also have installed (mostly office is 32bit) then there should be no problems with office trashing your driver setup.
Our MM help document tries to make this clear.
I would agree with your first comment Scott, it has become increasing harder to use Access with 3rd party apps - what a person thinks should work, doesn't. Very much a pain. But above should work for those of us faced with needing to link to MSAccess and not have to do too much of a workaround.
I won't get into whether MSAccess is a proper db; that said you are right, being their product MSFT does tend to ''forget' their own child in favour of SQL. But if people are working within a group/company then I agree, much better to go SQL all around.
I do quite like MSAccess as a simple DB and is very portable when we are working between clients as opposed to unweidly SQL ones - about 80% of our contacts give us MSAccess which we prefer over XLS and CSV, The rest give us XLS/CSV. Yes, they could send us a SQL backup, but that is usually in their too hard basket ...Hopefully this will all go away in near future once more and more companies, MM included, only develop 64 bit apps and drivers and they do away as much as possible with 32 bit.
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